Direct Ecosystem Community Consensus Statement - August 4, 2011
Direct Ecosystem Community Consensus Statement
This interim consensus vote is a statement that the current contents of the Direct Ecosystem Community wiki page (version 0.1) and the Direct Ecosystem Community X.509 Certificate Policy are sufficient to make early progress possible. It is understood that issues of governance and Federal Ecosystem interoperability are not yet fully addressed.
V0.8 Consensus Votes (September 23, 2011)
Name |
Organization |
Endorsement (Yes, Yes with Comments, No) |
Comments. If "No", what can be changed to make it yes? |
Adrian Gropper |
HealthURL |
Yes |
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Andy Hereen |
Cerner |
Yes |
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Brian Ahier |
Gorge Health Connect, Inc. |
Yes |
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Brian Hoffman |
DoD |
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Bruce Schreiber |
MaxMD |
Yes |
1) I would like John Odden's concerns discussed and vetted. Is his conclusion that this CP will lead to two competing Trust systems correct? 2) 4.12 states:"This CP does not support key escrow and recovery." Is this meant to be a neutral comment or a negative comment? 3) This CP requires a DirectTrust.org entity. How will this be funded and brought to life? |
Brett Peterson |
ABILITY |
Yes |
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Chris Moyer |
MedPlus/Quest |
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Colin Barry |
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David Kibbe |
AAFP |
Yes |
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David McCallie |
Cerner |
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Don Jorgenson |
Inpriva |
Yes, with comments |
I think we can and should move quickly to get the governance structure in place. If it cannot happen soon, then we should adjust this CP so it can be referenced from within a Direct digital certificate. |
Gary Christensen |
RIQI |
Yes |
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Greg Chittim |
Arcadia/RIQI |
Yes |
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Greg Meyer |
Cerner |
Yes |
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John Odden |
Coto Partners |
No |
1/13/2012: At the time of the consensus call, the CP language was, in my recollection, agreed to be changed to read: |
John Williams |
Health-ISP |
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Mark Gingrich |
Surescripts |
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Mark Stine |
MedPlus/Quest |
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McLain Causey |
ABILITY Network Inc |
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Noam Arzt |
HLN |
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Pat Pyette |
Inpriva |
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Pete Palmer |
Surescripts |
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Sean Nolan |
Microsoft |
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Sri Koka |
Techsant |
Yes |
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Steve Waldren |
AAFP |
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Umesh Madan |
Microsoft |
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Vince Lewis |
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Will Ross |
Redwood MedNet |
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V0.5 Consensus Votes (August 15, 2011)
Name |
Organization |
Endorsement (Yes, Yes with Comments, No) |
Comments. If "No", what can be changed to make it yes? |
Adrian Gropper |
HealthURL |
Yes with Comments |
The Approved Application restriction (4.5.1) is vague and possibly misguided. The organizational policies around application approval seem to be beyond the scope of DirectTrust.org. If this restriction is required for technical or FBCA compatibility reasons then accept my apologies for wasting your time. Otherwise, please explain where this fits in. |
Andy Hereen |
Cerner |
Yes |
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Brian Ahier |
Mid-Columbia Medical Center |
Yes with Comments |
This policy must be maintained so it is consistent with the FBCA CP |
Brian Hoffman |
DoD |
Yes |
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Bruce Schreiber |
MaxMD |
Yes, with comments |
The success of this structure depends on counter party certificate discovery and private key management. My concerns are: - Private Key concerns: If the hisp manages the private key, how strong and consistent is the individual authentication. Alternatively, can a user or provider properly guard and maintain a private key on an individual level? - Certificate Discovery concerns BIND as offered in CPANEL, or the Rackspace Portal or Godaddy Portal do not support CERT records at this time. Is there an alternative TXT record format that can be acceptable? There has been talk of using SRV records pointing at LDAP servers. That could be included here as well as a reference to an LDAP implementation standard. When is the domain only cert acceptable versus the individual cert? Is that a responsibility of the sender or is there a policy? |
Brett Peterson |
ABILITY |
Yes |
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Chris Moyer |
MedPlus/Quest |
Yes |
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Colin Barry |
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David Kibbe |
AAFP |
Yes |
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David McCallie |
Cerner |
Yes |
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Don Jorgenson |
Inpriva |
Yes, with comments |
Concerns/questions: - The Direct Ecosystem CP seems to anticipate a DirectTrust.org CA compliance process that largely duplicates that required by the FBCA. Why not include FBCA requirements by reference and focus on the Direct specific requirements? If FBCA compliance becomes a requirement, the Direct Ecosystem CP could be specified and maintained by DirectTrust.org without the necessity of establishing a separate enforcement infrastructure. FBCA required audits could be extended to cover Direct Ecosystem CP compliance. - There remain material inconsistencies to be worked out between the Direct Ecosystem Community wiki page, the Direct Ecosystem CP, requirements of the “Applicability Statement for Secure Health Transport” and requirements of the FBCA CP--some of these impact certificate content and interoperability. - In the FBCA CP, CAs designate their own RAs and are responsible for their compliance with the CP—why not follow that model? (Sect. 1) - Should DNS publication be the responsibility of the CA or the HISP? (Sect. 2.3) - Subscribers should not be required to “…utilize their Direct Ecosystem certificate only with applications approved for use by DirectTrust.org.” (Sect. 4.5.1) |
Gary Christensen |
RIQI |
Yes with comments |
Yes vote assumes that the approval is as stated above, that this is a document that is a good start and should move forward. There is still some more work to do to align the CP with the FBCA, in particular:* Section 3.2.3.1 requires that a public notary verify identity documents - this should be updated to allow a notary or the RA to physically verify identity documents
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Greg Chittim |
Arcadia/RIQI |
Yes with comments |
See Gary Christensen and Don Jorgenson's comments above |
Greg Meyer |
Cerner |
Yes |
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John Odden |
Coto Partners |
Yes with comments |
This "Yes" vote is contingent on this CP explicitly inserted specific language in the appropriate section (suggesting as new paragraph at the end of Section 1) that |
John Williams |
Health-ISP |
Yes |
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Mark Gingrich |
Surescripts |
Yes with comments |
This “Yes” vote is contingent on this CP not interfering with FICAM policies and/or the Kantara’s IAF that will comply with Tiger Team recommendations associated with the Direct Federal Community. We expect FICAM will address organization identity CP in near term. |
Mark Stine |
MedPlus/Quest |
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McLain Causey |
ABILITY Network Inc |
Yes |
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Noam Arzt |
HLN |
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Pat Pyette |
Inpriva |
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Pete Palmer |
Surescripts |
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Sean Nolan |
Microsoft |
Yes with comments |
Before the "RoTR" are really usable --- we will need a complementary set of policies for HISPs ... but this is an excellent CP for the community to move forward wrt Certificate Authorities. |
Sri Koka |
Techsant |
Yes |
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Steve Waldren |
AAFP |
Yes |
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Umesh Madan |
Microsoft |
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Vince Lewis |
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Will Ross |
Redwood MedNet |
yes with comments |
This yes vote is for the CP conceptually while expressing two concerns: 3.2.3.1 as written lacks clarity on the imposition of a notary in the directtrust.org (or equivalent) identity proofing process; and 3.1.2 may have unintended consequences at scale as naming conventions collide and evolve. |